Revelation

[psalm90:3]

This question will probably stir emotions to a new level. When did the Book of Revelation become a book of future prophecy? Prophecy, means prediction a foretelling and is mentioned within the book itself, a predicting a foretelling....the revealing of Christ in the saints today?
The war is a war within us, in our heavens(high places).
Im of the belief that the Book of Revelation is a book of prophecy for the saints today. The Book itself states in the very first verse that this book is the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Revelation is defined as an uncovering and revealing, a manifesting of something and in this case it is the uncovering of Jesus Christ in and to the saints of God. If we can hear, then we know that it is being worked out with in the believers. I suggest that there is more strenght and more understanding in the book of the Revelation..uncovering of Jesus Christ in the saints today, than to continue to make it fodder for the news, hollywood, skeptics and unbelievers anticipating those foolish saints going off to stand naked on some hill somewhere. My question why do we see and teach the book of Revelation as something that is in the future? Peace and Love Through Jesus

[Paul Maner]

Originally Posted by psalm90:3

This question will probably stir emotions to a new level. When did the Book of Revelation become a book of future prophecy? Prophecy, means prediction a foretelling and is mentioned within the book itself, a predicting a foretelling....the revealing of Christ in the saints today?
The war is a war within us, in our heavens(high places).
Im of the belief that the Book of Revelation is a book of prophecy for the saints today. The Book itself states in the very first verse that this book is the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Revelation is defined as an uncovering and revealing, a manifesting of something and in this case it is the uncovering of Jesus Christ in and to the saints of God. If we can hear, then we know that it is being worked out with in the believers. I suggest that there is more strenght and more understanding in the book of the Revelation..uncovering of Jesus Christ in the saints today, than to continue to make it fodder for the news, hollywood, skeptics and unbelievers anticipating those foolish saints going off to stand naked on some hill somewhere. My question why do we see and teach the book of Revelation as something that is in the future? Peace and Love Through Jesus

¹ The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: ² Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.
³ Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.^[1]

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^[1]The Holy Bible : King James Version. 1995 (Re 1:1-3). Logos Research Systems, Inc.: Oak Harbor, WA


That is what the text says. Understanding this passage is very simple really. If you choose to erase or delete the remaining of the verse there, you would be in error. Notice what the text says very clearly, "must shortly come to pass." It's been almost 2000 years since this was written. This is a Revelation to the Apostle John of what will soon take place. And as history has recorded, it happened.


The biggest problem people make when studying the book of Revelation is misapplying the context.


Look at some key words, and their definitions closely.


ffice:smarttags" name="place">ffice:smarttags" name="City">ffice:smarttags" name="State"> v.1 SHEW 1166 [deiknuo /dike·noo·o/] v. A prolonged form of an obsolete primary of the same meaning; AV Authorized Version See King James version^[1] translates as “show” 31 times. 1 to show, expose to the eyes. 2 metaphors. 2a to give evidence or proof of a thing. 2b to show by words or teach.

v.1 SIGNIFIED 4591 sēmainō (say-mah’-ee-no) (2), to indicate -signify, make known^[2]

The Apostle John explains to his readers that he will be using “Signs, and Symbols” or “Symbolisms, and Metaphors” in his writing of the book of Revelation.
v.3 BLESSED 3107 [makarios /mak·ar·ee·os/] adj. A prolonged form of the poetical makar (meaning the same); AV Authorized Version See King James version^[3] translates as “blessed” 44 times, “happy” five times, and “happier” once. 1 blessed, happy.

v.3 READETH 314 anaginōskō (3), to read aloud in public^[4]

v.3 HEAR 191 akŏuō (131), to hear; obey^[5]

v.3 KEEP 5083 tērĕō (32), to keep, guard, obey^[6]

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^[1]Strong, J. 1996. Enhanced Strong's Lexicon. Woodside Bible Fellowship: Ontario

^[2]Strong, J. 1997, c1996. New Strong's guide to Bible words (electronic ed.). Thomas Nelson: Nashville

^[3]Strong, J. 1996. Enhanced Strong's Lexicon. Woodside Bible Fellowship: Ontario

^[4]Strong, J. 1997, c1996. New Strong's guide to Bible words (electronic ed.). Thomas Nelson: Nashville

^[5]Strong, J. 1997, c1996. New Strong's guide to Bible words (electronic ed.). Thomas Nelson: Nashville

^[6]Strong, J. 1997, c1996. New Strong's guide to Bible words (electronic ed.). Thomas Nelson: Nashville

[psalm90:3]

I suggest the time is at hand. The Book is The Revelation of Jesus Christ, not some futurist outplay. Jesus Christ was being uncoverd, unveiled, revealed to His servant John with signs and symbols.
Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day,
There you have the context. It is Spiritual not natural. I cannot emphasis enough that when man begins to see the Revelation of Jesus Christ as a natural (it has been 2,000 yrs) then we see man imaginations begin to work. Jesus said

Joh 4:23 But a time is coming--nay, has already come--when the true worshippers will worship the Father with true spiritual worship; for indeed the Father desires such worshippers.
Joh 4:24 God is Spirit; and those who worship Him must bring Him true spiritual worship."

I again repeat

Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of the prophecy, and keep the things that are written therein: for the time is at hand.That time is NOW
G4394 = prophecy
προφητεία
prophēteia
prof-ay-ti'-ah
From G4396 ("prophecy"); prediction (scriptural or other): - prophecy, prophesying.
I contend that we as the saints need more to rely on the "mind of Christ" ICor.2:16 than on theologian scholars. We must me renewed in knowing
that I Cor.1:25-31 it is His reasoning and not mans. Peace and Love Through Jesus

[Paul Maner]

Originally Posted by psalm90:3

I suggest the time is at hand. The Book is The Revelation of Jesus Christ, not some futurist outplay. Jesus Christ was being uncoverd, unveiled, revealed to His servant John with signs and symbols.
Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day,
There you have the context. It is Spiritual not natural. I cannot emphasis enough that when man begins to see the Revelation of Jesus Christ as a natural (it has been 2,000 yrs) then we see man imaginations begin to work. Jesus said

Joh 4:23 But a time is coming--nay, has already come--when the true worshippers will worship the Father with true spiritual worship; for indeed the Father desires such worshippers.
Joh 4:24 God is Spirit; and those who worship Him must bring Him true spiritual worship."
I again repeat

Rev 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of the prophecy, and keep the things that are written therein: for the time is at hand.That time is NOW
G4394 = prophecy
προφητεία
prophēteia
prof-ay-ti'-ah
From G4396 ("prophecy"); prediction (scriptural or other): - prophecy, prophesying.
I contend that we as the saints need more to rely on the "mind of Christ" ICor.2:16 than on theologian scholars. We must me renewed in knowing
that I Cor.1:25-31 it is His reasoning and not mans. Peace and Love Through Jesus

Again, make any suggestions you want. Demonstrate where the bible teaches us that there are signs that suggest Christ coming is soon? Last I checked, Jesus said that when he returns that He doesn't even know the time, only the Father; and that He will come as a thief in the night. What thief gives a warning before his work?

This is a bible study forum, please use your bible to prove your "suggestions" or you will not be taken seriously.

Thanks

[psalm90:3]

Originally Posted by Paul Maner

Again, make any suggestions you want. Demonstrate where the bible teaches us that there are signs that suggest Christ coming is soon? Last I checked, Jesus said that when he returns that He doesn't even know the time, only the Father; and that He will come as a thief in the night. What thief gives a warning before his work?

This is a bible study forum, please use your bible to prove your "suggestions" or you will not be taken seriously.

Thanks

He came and continues to come. Jo.14:16,26 Jo.15:26 Jo. 16:7
Coming=parousia:a being near,
You do have that right about a thief.
He comes to those who are looking IIPet.3:12 Jude 1:21
He is here Today. Praise the Lord. Peace and Love Through Jesus.
Dont think I will use the word suggest again. Thank you.